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Dr. Brenda Walding is a Holistic Wellness & Transformation Coach and specializes in supporting and empowering women to truly heal and thrive. She is a Doctor of Physical Therapy, Functional Diagnostic Nutrition practitioner, TaoFlow yoga teacher, HeartMath Certified Coach and women’s holistic health advocate. Brenda currently resides outside of Austin, Texas on the beautiful Lake Travis.

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Welcome to the Healing Uncensored Podcast. My name is Sarah Small, and I’m a health and mindset coach for women with autoimmune disease just like you. I absolutely love helping you tap into your self-healing power, uncover the energetic side of healing, and release limiting beliefs around your body and your life. Think of this podcast as everything you wouldn’t hear at your doctor’s office. It’s a place for empowered souls to move beyond food and heal themselves on a soul level. I hope you enjoy today’s episode. Now let’s begin.

Welcome. Today my guest is Dr. Brenda Walding. She is a holistic wellness and transformation coach, and she specializes in supporting and empowering women to truly heal and thrive. She’s a doctor of physical therapy, functional diagnostic nutrition practitioner, tao flow yoga teacher, HeartMath certified coach, and women’s holistic health advocate. I can’t wait for you to hear all of the wisdom that Brenda has to share today, but also her own story, which is so powerful and transformational, and I think will inspire you all. So let’s dive right in.

Sarah: Welcome to the show, Brenda. I cannot wait for the listeners to be able to learn from you and all of your experience. I know that you have a powerful, personal story having dealt with chronic illness of your own. So can we start there so people could get an idea of the path that you’ve traveled to get where you are today?

Brenda: Yes, absolutely. And thank you so much for having me on the show. I’m excited to be here and excited to share with all of your listeners. So as far as my story, my span’s over the past 10 years’ plus, it really started for me. I was pretty much seemingly healthy my whole life, a division one athlete in college, just training my whole life, feeling good, feeling vibrant. And then once I got married, went into physical therapy school, and moved to a new city, all of these life stressors happened. And then I started to feel chronically fatigued and I broke out into rashes that were covering my entire body. And those rashes ended up staying there for about two and a half years. So I had these oozing, weeping, horrific rashes, and then I just started to get sick all the time and nobody could figure out what was going on. I’m sure some of your listeners can relate to that as doctors trying to figure out what’s wrong, can’t really figure it out.

I didn’t know really anything about nutrition or lifestyle. I was just an athlete and going to physical therapy school and working as a physical therapist and then trying to get by, and things just started to get worse. And I came down with a really serious infection that caused me to go on disability from my job. So this is my late twenties and I ended up in bed covered with rashes, hair falling out, just wanted to die. Essentially, what has my life come to? And so, it was a really challenging and dark time for me not knowing what to do. And I took four rounds of antibiotics in a month and a half, and I just kept getting worse. I was seeing an immune specialist. People were flying in all over the country to see this man and they still couldn’t figure out what was wrong. So I had puss all in my mouth and my throat, rashes over my body, couldn’t sleep without packing my body full of ice. And this was right after I got married so this was our honeymoon phase. And I’m like, Oh honey, I’m so sorry.

So then this is the radical shift for me. What happened is I ended up kind of started looking around for answers and I came across an article called Natural Solutions to Drug-Resistant Infections. And in it, it started talking about Wild Mediterranean Oregano Oil. And you’ll appreciate this because you love essential oils. And I started to take it just because I was like, what the heck? And the infection went away in three days. So after struggling, and for the first time in months and months, I started to get some relief from the rashes on my body. So that was the huge opening for me into natural healing and looking at things from a different perspective and starting to explore. From there I started to explore diet, nutrition, lifestyle factors, slowing down, looking at how my thoughts are affected, my body, and started to see natural and holistic healers, and really started to unpack what was going on layer by layer, healing my gut, and things started to improve. So then I became a nutrition practitioner. I went into qigong and yoga and really started to expand my definition of healing, so to speak, and how to heal from a more holistic perspective.

So I learned so much. I learned so much, and that was about eight years. And I finally got back to work feeling better. I really had this almost compulsion about healing myself, like I have to fix myself, I have to heal myself as probably some of you can— Super strict on my diet and learning, learning, learning all the time. And it was like a full-time job, if you can relate to that, with a focus of really desiring to start a family, to have a strong enough immune system to have a baby. And then a few years ago, about that time when we were getting ready to start a family, we decided to go to Italy and start this family. I was feeling really good. And then right before, about a week before, after working out, I was poking around on my muscles in my chest and I found a breast mass. And so, I was devastated. I knew in my heart it wasn’t a good thing. I knew that this was something serious and it just really brought me to my knees. So needless to say, we didn’t start the family.

But it really got me thinking. I’ve been so focused and so disciplined about my healing and I’ve healed so much, what am I missing? What am I not getting here? And just having these really deep, soulful conversations with God, and this whole thing of I can’t keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result. What am I missing? And so, instead of going out and researching and pulling everyone, I just really got still and quiet. And I was asking in the middle of the night, in a dark, black room, just crying, and saying, God, what do you want me to do? Because I knew for me, I wasn’t inclined to go the traditional conventional route of chemo and radiation. And so, I just really didn’t know what to do. And in the stillness I heard, if you’re going to survive, you’re going to have to learn to listen to your heart. And that for me was, I would have had a complete calm come over me. And then I knew that was truth, but then I panicked because I’m like, I don’t know how to do that. I don’t really know what that means. How do I listen to my heart? How do I listen and how do I navigate this seemingly really serious situation? Listening to my heart; how do I do that?

So that’s been my path over the past three years, really diving into the emotional and the spiritual aspect of healing. And that just came full circle. Cancer has been one of the greatest gifts for me that I truly was able to dive into myself and really learn who I am, and to love myself, and to love my life, and to find more joy and meaning. And so, that is the abridged version of my story, even though I took a little time. But it’s standing over a decade so lots of life lessons and lots of learning just really changed how I live my life.

Sarah: That’s amazing. Thank you so much for sharing all of that with us. I think that many of us can relate not only to the darkness and the closed-door-shades-shut darkness of just crying because we don’t know if we are gonna get through this. I think that you’ve brought up that illness has actually been this gift and this teacher. So what are some of the things that maybe when you first were diagnosed or just first started having health challenges, you would not have seen as a gift, but eventually found to be a message or a teacher for you?

Brenda: So, as far as what I’ve found as a gift, I have realized that with the darkness, there’s always light and there’s always dark, you know? Even though at first, sometimes you’re so quick to label things as bad or wrong. And one example of this is I chose a very unconventional path of healing. And one of those paths for the cancer journey was I went to California to this alternative medicine cancer healing center. And so, we ended up spending our entire life savings and selling our home from California. I live in Texas. So my husband, amazing man, just picked up everything and we moved there to get this treatment. Sold our home. So that was devastating and seemingly very bad, right? In my mind. And even when I went there, I was trying to avoid having surgery or getting a mastectomy because we were hoping to shrink the mass enough to be a candidate for this specialized surgery that froze the mass. So it didn’t work after all of it. After $50,000, it didn’t quote-unquote work the way that I had wanted it to work. Then I felt called that the next step was to have this mastectomy.

So we drove across country back home to move out of our house in two days because we had sold it. And then I was facing surgery so we moved into our in-laws’ condo which was on this little lake. It was a time of, what does that mean to fully surrender? Because everything was gone; our savings, our home, our everything. And it was some of the most beautiful times after surgery of just spending time in nature at this little lake condo with my husband. And I fell in love. I grew so much. I realized how much I love nature and how much I don’t need all the things. And it was just a beautiful, beautiful time of self-reflection. And then we ended up full circle. Now we live on that lake. We have a house that we’ve bought with a view of the lake. And so, I would have never come out and lived in nature like this before, but now I love it so much and it just feeds my soul so much. So this is just an example of not being so quick to label things as bad, and just really learning to flow with life, and to ask what am I to learn and how? Because there’s always gold.

Sarah: Yes. And we always get that choice, right? We can choose to, like in your example, losing $50,000, or you can choose to see this gift of this beautiful home that you now have and that reconnection to nature and just making your soul happy. So I didn’t catch at the end of your story, and I’m sure listeners are probably wondering this too, what stage are you at now in your healing? Is the cancer gone?

Brenda: Yes. So after doing lots of different alternative medicine, deep emotional healing, I even came across a man that had a cancer-healing center in the Amazon jungle, and learned some of the indigenous plant medicines and just had a wild—This has all been my heart-led journey of people crossing my path and learning from and following my heart in this healing process. And so, after the mastectomy, when they did go in there, they’d found that it had not metastasized. And so, I think all the work I had done prior was really powerful. So yes, I’m doing great and now I’m focusing on, as part of my own healing journey, my call of my heart is now to help other women and to support other women in their healing process, which as you can probably relate, is part of the healing, is part of my purpose.

Sarah: Yes. Yes. There’s so much healing in sharing your story and also then sharing the wisdom that you’ve gleaned over all your trial and error and experimentations as well. Absolutely. So in your book, Brenda, you wrote about whole-hearted healing and the nine essentials to this whole-hearted healing process. So can you give us a little overview of what that looks like?

Brenda: Yes. So whole-hearted to me, what I describe in my book, and for those of you that don’t know my book that just recently came out, it’s called Sick of Being Sick: The Woman’s Holistic Guide to Conquering Chronic Illness. And essentially it shares my story and it shares these, what I call, whole-hearted healing nine essentials to living a heart-centered life, and to healing from a heart-centered perspective. Because I don’t know about you guys, but for me, I really focused on healing myself, trying to fix myself. And I think so many of us in this world, we’re dealing with an epidemic of chronic illness and it’s all about waging war against disease and fighting and trying to fix and trying to find answers outside of ourselves, and really focusing a lot on the physical body, which is understandable. And that’s what I was doing for eight years. It’s the diet, the nutrition, and the supplements, and really laser-focused on that.

But I was neglecting the spiritual and the emotional and even the mental aspect of healing and who we are. That’s who we are as beings is we’re spiritual beings having this human experience and we have different dynamics of who we are. And so, when we just focus on the one, on the physical, we fall short in terms of, yes, it’s foundational and yes, it’s important. So I think that’s one of the things that I really wanted to share with people when I talk about whole-hearted and this holistic approach is really, don’t forget that there is this whole spiritual and mental and emotional aspect of who you are. And so, when you’re dealing with chronic illness, we always have to address that. And then the heart-centered, like I mentioned in my story, is that whole prompting by the divine of learning to listen to my heart. And so, for me, that is getting out of the head.

We’re so focused on listening to the thoughts in our head and in this place of fear it’s like, how do we learn to diet, get into our heart, to be able to navigate our life from that place, from our highest self? Because the answers and the power to heal is within us. And so, it’s interesting my path took me to HeartMath. Are you familiar with HeartMath?

Sarah: Yes, I am, but I don’t think everyone listening is. Yes, the HeartMath Institute.

Brenda: Yes. And so, because I was someone that’s really in my head all the time, it was really great to find this institution called HeartMath, which does research on the power and the wisdom of the heart and the science behind that.

Sarah: It’s fascinating.

Brenda: It is fascinating. So I got certified in coaching that. And I do that a lot with my clients, is using those technologies and techniques. But it bridges the gap between those people that it appealed to my left brain to understand that listening to the heart, it’s not just this woo-woo thing. It’s actually based in science. And so, that was really powerful. So I started to learn how powerful the heart is and techniques to access my intuition. And that’s where the whole-hearted healing approach comes in, is describing that and learning to live from the heart, cultivating qualities of the heart like love and compassion and forgiveness, courage. And another powerful teacher of mine is Brené Brown and her work talking about whole-hearted living. So anyways, the nine essentials, I can share those with you if you want me to go over those.

Sarah: Sure.

Brenda: Okay. So the nine essentials: Number one is taking responsibility for your health. Number two is creating a vision. And that’s really, really powerful, is creating a vision for your health and for your life, and harnessing that power of thought, word, and feeling. And then the third is thoughts and beliefs. Beliefs are really powerful. The fourth is emotion, emotional body. And then the fifth is live to thrive or the key lifestyle factors that I share that are really important in anyone’s healing process. And then six is eat, drink, detox. So we’re talking about nutrition and hydration, detoxification. And then number eight is connection; authentic connection, and relationships, which is super powerful. Sisterhood has been incredibly powerful in my healing journey. And the last is trust and surrender.

Sarah: Beautiful. You mentioned fear when you were talking about the heart part of this whole-hearted process, and I’m glad you brought up fear because that’s one of the questions that I get asked almost the most is, I’m afraid, I’m living in this place of fear, how do I get out of it? So I’m curious how fear impacted you in your own healing process, but also, if anyone listening feels like they’re living in this place of fear and panic survival mode, how do we get out of that?

Brenda: I think that it’s probably fundamentally one of the best questions/topics to address because isn’t that so true that it’s absolutely terrifying? When you’re dealing with any kind of illness, especially even cancer, when you’re thinking— For me, it was the fear of dying. And then underneath, when I really unpacked that, for me, it was the fear of dying haven’t never fully lived, if that makes sense.

Sarah: Yes, absolutely.

Brenda: Because when I really reflected, I realized I was living my life for other people and I really hadn’t fully expressed who I was and really lived for me. And that’s what, again, when we talked about gifts, that fear of dying having never fully lived and having cancer was the gift of going, Oh, the only antidote to that is to live fully now for however much time I have left, you know? So that was super powerful. But to answer your question, fear is, I think for a lot of people, it’s something we want to get out of as quickly as possible and to try to get on the other side of it. And I think it’s important to know that when we’re feeling fear, first of all, I always tell my clients, you never want to make a decision from that place. We’re always operating from a place of fear or love. And so, getting into your heart and getting out of fear are super important, but how? And it’s a great question.

So for me, and some of the greatest teachers I’ve had, is that all honest emotions are good emotions. So fear; it’s like being able to touch the fear with love, to love and to touch and to stay and to breathe and to feel it, to allow it to move. And so, fear transforms into our faith if we can touch it with love and breathe and stay and allow it to be there and listen to what it’s— There’s a part in my book where I talk about letting your fear speak. And so, maybe it’s journaling, maybe it’s listening. And then allowing that fear to move and then invoking an elevated emotion. So not trying to push it away, but feeling it, listening to it. And then through HeartMath, there’s some techniques of combining the breath with an elevated emotional state, which allows you to move into that heart-coherent place or that place where you can access the heart. So it’s really powerful to realize that you have that power to feel your feelings and to move that energy and shift your emotional state.

Sarah: Yes. Yes. I love that. Those are really good tips as well, to move out of that fear and really just choose love. So I know you also talk about our belief systems in your book. How do our beliefs impact our health and wellbeing?

Brenda: I think it’s so important. I think it’s one of the most important things that’s often overlooked and not really addressed at all. So for example, and this is regardless of what you call God or source or the divine, many of our beliefs come from our upbringing and a lot of times from the ages from zero to seven. So we really absorb everything from our parents, our families, our culture, and we formulate these beliefs or this lens through which we see the world. And for example, when it comes to healing, if we believe fundamentally that God or the source of all that is, is punishing us in some way for being sick or for being wrong or doing something wrong or sinning, but on the other hand, we have this deep desire to heal and that’s our dream and our vision, it’s like this belief can often get in the way from us actually choosing to receive the healing power that we have within us. So sometimes our beliefs around religion, around life, around who we are about our limitations, can undercut our desire and our ability to heal. So it’s an important thing to look at too.

Sarah: So, first of all, our beliefs are not something necessarily that are on our clothing, on our skin. You can’t see that. But also, that many of these autoimmune diseases and chronic illnesses are also seemingly invisible. Whether it’s a physical symptom, a limiting belief, emotional trauma, all of that, it’s not necessarily something that we wear on our outer shell. And so, that’s where we get this term invisible illness, right? Someone might look seemingly fine when really they’re at some of their darkest moments of their life or they’re really struggling. So I know you mentioned having some dark moments like that, and also, you’ve experienced an invisible illness. So how did you cope or how would you suggest that people cope when they aren’t necessarily being seen as sick or people maybe don’t believe them that they don’t feel good?

Brenda: Yes, I’ve definitely been there. And having experienced that allows you to have a lot of compassion because you never know what somebody else is going through or dealing with. And that’s so important for us all to understand and to realize, to have compassion for other people. So, as far as that goes, I think that’s also for us to realize that we’ve all judged other people at other times in our lives. And so, knowing that sometimes people are relating to you and they’re kind of stuck in their own story and their own stuff and so they’re not really understanding or relating to you from that place of knowing really what’s going on. So having that mindset of compassion for others and for yourself as well, I think that’s really important. But as far as dealing with the emotions, I think for me, sometimes there’s loneliness and sometimes there’s shame or guilt. It’s like, why can’t I figure this out? Why am I doing this? What did I do wrong? And I think getting stuck in that mental story of I’ve done something wrong, why am I not smart enough to figure this out or good enough to figure this out? I think we have to be careful and be aware that those stories really keep us stuck in our fear and keep us stuck in that vibration where it’s not conducive to healing. And so, having that compassion for ourselves so that we can be in that place of heart-centeredness.

And when I say that, there’s this optimal physiological state of where the systems of the body are functioning in harmony and that’s that state at which we heal and we repair. But we’re in this state of fear and sadness and anger and we let that stay there and deplete our bodies. That’s not a state conducive to healing. So when we’re in that state of blame and judgment about not being able to get well or being in that shame place, we’re in this vibration where we stay stuck in this place of not being able to fully heal. And so, I would just say that out loud so that if you’re resonating with that and you feel those things, knowing that that’s normal and it’s okay, but realizing you don’t want to stay stuck in those places and those are just stories that you’re telling yourself. Because it’s normal. We’re human to have those emotions.

Sarah: Yes. I love talking too about how there’s certainly a place for nutrition and for medicine. But I love moving beyond that to really get to this deep, soul work and talk about the limiting beliefs and the emotions, but also spirituality. So has spirituality or your own intuition guided you along your own process at all? Or do you incorporate any of that into your book?

Brenda: Yes. Yes, a thousand percent. I think for me, when I say learning to let my heart lead, that is part of the spiritual journey of really connecting with that God or that divine within me and recognizing myself as a unique aspect of divine creation. Whereas before, in my upbringing, was more of God’s out there and I’m here and we’re separate, whereas now, realizing that the power that created me, that created the universe, that turns embryos into babies and beautiful sunsets is actually within me. And if I can recognize that and I can allow that same power to heal me— I’ve been fascinated about studying people that have healed from catastrophic illness and there’s always this spiritual component of connecting with that, the source of all that is, that has this ultimate power to heal. And so, I think when we don’t tap into the spiritual aspect of who we are, then we do have a hard time fully healing and thriving.

I talk about healing being this return to wholeness and it’s so much more than a sick body made well. It’s this sense of being connected with your soul, of being connected with all that is. And I think that Mother Teresa talks about spiritual deprivation being the biggest factor in the suffering of the world. And I think that’s so true, is when we forget who we are. So essentially, healing, to me, is about remembering who we are and reclaiming that, and who we are as spirit, who we are as divine creations.

Sarah: That’s beautiful. I found in my own process of healing chronic illness that I was so disconnected from any sort of spirituality. There was zero of that in my life. And through chronic illness, I woke up and I discovered that, and now it is a huge part of my life that I’m doing my rituals and my spiritual practice and meditation every single day. And it was a huge part of me that was just, I didn’t even know it was missing until I got sick. And then I realized it was missing and that there was this part of me that just was not fulfilled. So you have overcome so much between chronic illness and autoimmune and breast cancer. And so, I believe that these illnesses and conditions, they teach us so much. What would you say are some of the things that you’ve learned the most and that you’d like to also then share with the world? I know we talked about taking your struggle and turning it into your purpose, but now that you’ve started to do that, what do you feel are the main messages that you try to then give across to your clients and your community?

Brenda: Yes, I think you touched on a couple of things there that I would a thousand percent agree with. And the message that if anyone that’s dealing with a quote-unquote disease or a diagnosis or mystery illness, that are struggling with their health in any way, if we can shift our perception and recognize that disease or this dis-ease that’s showing up in our world is an opportunity for radical growth and transformation. If we can just shift the way that we are looking at that instead of this horrible thing. Like you said, for so many, and it’s not just you and me, it’s so many people that have healed from catastrophic illness and illnesses of all kinds. It’s like it was the thing that woke them up. It was the thing that ushered in radical amounts of joy and meaning and fulfillment and connection. And so, it’s like that saying to us, Hey, like for me, Hey, Brenda, wake up. There’s so much more to who you are and to this life.

And I think if you’re listening and you’re struggling and you can hear both of us sharing that, it’s like if you can start to think, Oh man, maybe this presence of symptoms or challenges is a wake-up call for me to dive deeper into my heart, into my soul, and that there is some powerful, beautiful things on the other side. If we can shift, it can be this beautiful catalyst for creating a life that we love. That’s the possibility if we can shift the way that we’re thinking about what’s happening in our lives and our circumstances. And so, that was one thing, disease is divine opportunity. And I think the other thing that you touched upon, that it was the same for me was, I make my spiritual practice and my routines and my rituals as non-negotiable and it’s such a powerful part of a healing practice and what I do with my clients as well. And I think that’s one of the most important things in practices, in practicality, that I would say is a morning practice. I stop, I slow down, I meditate, I have an intention and a vision for my life and what I’m moving into, what I’m co-creating. And remembering who I am as divine because I have 30-plus years of beliefs and things that say the contrary.

So I have to have that time to ‘Ahh,’ to remember, and to shift, if I’m in a fear place, if I’m struggling and I have to take that quiet and really go within. And so, I think for anyone listening, I think that is one of the most powerful, important things if you’re wanting to overcome and to really thrive, is to create some sort of morning practice or healing practice in your life like that.

Sarah: Well, now that I know that you also love essential oils, I’d love for you to also let us know which ones are your favorite or how you might incorporate those into your ritual or healing too.

Brenda: Oh goodness. Yes. As you know, the essential oil rabbit hole goes pretty deep as far as that goes. But yes, I use them every morning. In my rituals, one of my teachers just taught me this practice and I do it with my clients, of putting an essential oil on my hand and rubbing it and breathing it in, and rubbing it on my hands and my heart to my head. So hands, heart, head, and then I say a prayer. So as far as my favorites, I love clary sage, I love frankincense, I love wild orange. Gosh, there’s so many of them. I love and I think you work with dōTERRA?

Sarah: Yes.

Brenda: Yes. And so, I love Balance.

Sarah: Balance is my favorite [37:35-37:36 indiscernible]. I think it’ll always be my favorite because I tend to be this upper chakra, airy dreamer. And I am always—

Brenda: You needed grounding.

Sarah: Yes, I think I need the grounding and Balance is exactly that, this grounding blend of lots of root and tree oils blended into it that bring me back into my physical body, because I often times try to jump out of it. So [38:04-38:06 indiscernible]. Beautiful.

Brenda: Yes, I would agree. So yes, so many beautiful— I love plant medicines. I love the beautiful plants that heal us and teach us and yes… Very powerful.

Sarah: Yes. They’re little gifts from the earth. And I know I appreciate them so much in my own healing practice and also love sharing them with other people to give them that experience that maybe they never had before. So I know that you have a gift for our listeners, I’d love for you to tell them about that and just let them know where they can learn more about you.

Brenda: Yes. So I would love to offer a free electronic copy of my book. So it’s Sick of Being Sick: The Woman’s Holistic Guide to Conquering Chronic Illness. We shared some of those nine essentials and you can dive into that in the book. And so, if you want to download a copy of that, you can go to www.sickofbeingsickbook.com and grab a copy there. And if you do and you enjoy it, or you have any comments, I’d love to hear. You can also email me and contact me and let me know how you like it.

Sarah: I can’t wait for everyone to be able to read this. Brenda sent me a copy this past week and it’s just been amazing to read more about her story and really see ourselves in someone else’s healing journey, even though they’re different. It’s like we’re all human, we’re all going through this human experience and experiencing a lot of the same challenges and struggles, even if it’s not the exact same. So is there anything else that you want to share with our listeners before I wrap up today, Brenda?

Brenda: I don’t think I have anything else, except for just thank you for your time and thank you for listening. And I do have one more thing actually. There’s a beautiful quote by Dr. Christiane Northrup that talks about when one woman heals herself, she heals all the women that came before her and all the women that come after. And I do feel like this discipline and this practice of reflecting and going within and to heal yourself, and I know that there may be men listening to this as well, really resonate and work with women. But when we heal ourselves and we do that emotional work and we dive into those dark and scary places and we rise above, we are healing the world and we’re healing each other. And so, I honor and acknowledge all of you wherever you’re at on your healing journey, and you’re all powerful beyond measure and extraordinary. And so, just thank you for who you are, and everything, and the path that you’ve walked.

Sarah: That is amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing your story and your wisdom with us today. I appreciate you so much. Everyone, the show notes will have that link that Brenda mentioned to download her book so you guys can all go download it there. And thank you again.

Brenda: Yes. Thank you so much. It was so much fun.

Thank you so much for tuning in to today’s episode. As mentioned, you could get Brenda’s book Sick of Being Sick in the show notes. And this book goes into her nine essentials that she hinted towards today on the whole-hearted approach to healing, powerful tips, tools, and daily practices for your radiant health. Can’t wait for you guys all to take a look at it. I have been reading it and it’s really, really powerful. So go check it out. And I also wanted to let you know that starting next week on Monday, January 7th, I’m going to be hosting a free four-part mini-series in the Autoimmune Tribe Facebook group. The series is called Empower Your Inner Healer, and it includes tools, methods, strategies for you to awaken the healer that is within you and start to activate that power that is so innate in your soul.

So each day I’ll be going live in the group for a little mini-lesson on how to specifically go through, step-by-step, empower that inner healer inside of you. And I can’t wait to host this training. This is my third time hosting it, but each time looks a little bit different. So if you’d like to join us for that free training, come pop over into the Autoimmune Tribe Facebook group. I’ll also put a link to that in the show notes, and I’ll see you guys on Monday, January 7th, as we begin.

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