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Natalie Suppes is a coach for women with irritable bowel disease (IBD). She was diagnosed in 2007 with ulcerative colitis (UC) and later Crohns disease. After she finished university, (while also becoming a certified hairstylist), she went into a corporate career in sales- all while extremely sick.

Twelve years later she started biologics which ruined her metabolism and body. That pushed her to start researching more about her health and she decided to become a personal trainer. After a 12 year flare, Natalie was finally able to achieve remission through diet and exercise.

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Today’s episode, I have with me, Natalie Suppes. Natalie is a coach for women with IBD or irritable bowel disease. And you’re going to hear Natalie discuss her personal healing story, how she experienced a flare for 12 years and was finally able to achieve remission through diet and exercise. We’re also going to talk about the difference between fighting your way up a corporate ladder, or through college university, and what it feels like to fight an illness. We’re going to talk about mindset, what it’s like to be in a relationship with chronic illness, and so much more. So again, I can’t wait for you guys to hear all that Natalie has to share today. Let’s dive right in.

Sarah: Welcome to the show, Natalie. I’m so excited for it to have you here. And you shared with me that you were diagnosed with ulcerative colitis and then Crohn’s disease. Can you share your healing journey and what inspires you to create your Instagram? I highly recommend everyone go check out its @for.the.health. Can you tell us that story?

Natalie’s healing journey

Natalie: Yes. First off, thank you so much for having me here. I love your Instagram also. And I’m excited to share my story. So I was just finishing high school. I’m still in high school and got diagnosed with UC. It was about a year before I got diagnosed. I eventually had a colonoscopy and the GI said that it was UC. The road, the years that diagnosis was changed to Crohn’s not in a specific time. It just, sometimes they would say Crohn’s sometimes UC, and eventually, it was always Crohn’s. There was a lot in the story. So I was pretty young, not as young as some people are getting diagnosed now, but I was 17-ish when symptoms started. And that was about the time where I was finishing high school and deciding to go to university. I was also in a hairstyling program, so I had a lot going on. And did go to university all while in a major flare. So my symptoms were a lot of bathroom checks, 20 to 30 a day, a lot of blood, extreme pain, having to take two Tylenol, three top pain killers every single day, just to be able to do the day.

And then, within that, I still continued pushing for my dreams. So I finished the hair program. I worked as a hairstylist while in university for business, all while almost ignoring the disease. The disease was my life because I couldn’t really do anything other than school and work, but I didn’t want to accept that it was going to be that way forever. But I didn’t do anything other than what the doctors told me to. They were my, the doctor says do this, I would do that. My family was pretty holistic in the sense that they really believed that other things can help. I can remember them bringing me almond milk and rice milk and me thinking that they were crazy. And making me drink aloe juice and all these things that I do now, but back then I was like, no, you think that drinking allergies is going to cure this incurable disease? You’re crazy. So I would never listen.

I was pretty stubborn. I was an only child, so yes, stubborn. I wouldn’t listen. I was sick. So that was stressing me out. And then I would add a bunch of stress on top of it with schoolwork, et cetera. So I was in a flare for 12 years in and out of the hospital, usually in the hospital around exam periods of university. I would get diagnosed with different things like erythematosus and started fainting from being anemic, a couple of times. And just one thing after another, they would put on top of the Crohn’s disease, and I would keep taking the medications and symptoms would continue to get worse. Up until 2017, where it just got so bad that I didn’t leave the apartment for weeks.

I had a job, thankfully, I was done with university at this point, but I had a job as a VP of marketing for a company and I was able to work from home. So it was really good except, I was probably in the bathroom for 90% of the day in pain. And then I would go do hair and stuff on the side. And it just wasn’t a way to live. And I definitely wasn’t in tune with my body. I always had a lot of weight issues. So I did consider fitness a part of my life. I would go to the gym and in the bathroom five to six times throughout an hour. But I didn’t really care what I was eating because of health reasons. I wasn’t at the gym for health reasons. I was at the gym for weight loss or vanity or whatever.

So I just didn’t think there was another way other than being sick. And then I got a perforated bowel and was trying to go do someone’s hair, [inaudible] then freaked out on me. To the point where he actually, we lived in an apartment where our friends lived above us. And he was, I can’t, you need to go to the hospital if you’re not going to go, I have to leave. I can’t watch you like this. And so he went upstairs and I was just sitting on the bed and I wanted to go still, but I couldn’t even get up. The pain was so bad. So I called them and we went to the hospital. That was almost a two weeks stay. And they tried a few times throughout other hospital stays to do surgery, to give me a colostomy bag, but I kept refusing.

And this time they put me on biologic medications, they really didn’t give me another option. And because of those they put me on Humira. So I had been on every other medication besides biologics. But yes, they put me on Humira and a bunch of antibiotics. And within a few months, I gained a large amount of weight. I think within three months it was almost 50 pounds. So that’s when my weight struggles came back because I had lost weight over the years. And I decided to start caring about health a bit more. Now, I was researching taking what I learned in university, and digging deep into scientific studies. And at that point, I lost trust, not in my doctor because he’s a great doctor. I love him. I’m blessed with my doctor, but I lost trust in maybe medication or the medical system.

And so, I continued to gain weight over six months, and I started finding studies that proved that biological medications do that for about 13% of people. They damage the mitochondria and you’re just you gain weight and you can’t get it off no matter what. So I hired a few coaches. I was extremely dieting, fully clean, no sugar, nothing, training every day. And the weight kept coming on. So finally, I convinced my doctor that it was the medication, but he switched me to Solera, which is another biological medication. And I gained 20 pounds in that one month. And so I went back to him and said, enough is enough. Weight gain is one thing, but if I’m gaining 20 pounds in a month and this continues, then that’s going to be a whole other illness. It’s not just vanity at this point. So I actually became a personal trainer in that same month. And begged my doctor didn’t let me get off medication. I had done a lot of research about keto and other things scientific, I mean clean versions of keto, what they did for epilepsy, but for chronic illness, and just wanted to give it a go on my own. And that was January 2018. And I’ve been in remission since.

Sarah: No, I love to hear other women’s stories because even if we’re diagnosed with different things, I think there’s so much, we can see ourselves in that story, and the struggle to get the diagnosis. And then, you were saying losing trust in the medical system, healthcare system. Yes, it sucks, but I’ve been there too, and it’s been so disheartening and heavy and you’re, okay, now this is where I thought I was going to get my healing. Now where I look, where do I go from here? And it sounds like you were doing so much. And you mentioned 12 years in a flare, that’s so exhausting I’m sure. And to be in remission now, since what you say last January, a whole year. That’s amazing. And so, you talk a lot, I saw on your Instagram and a little bit of your bio too, about being able to, «fight your way through challenges in life». Being in university full time, having multiple part-time jobs during high school, having relationships and a social life to some extent, and also having this illness. But that when you took that same kind of battle mode, fight mode, and applied that to your health, everything changed. So can you explain what you mean by that and what created this aha moment for you, and that the way that I fight other things in my life might not work for this illness?

Natalie: Yes, absolutely. So I think because I am an only child and grew up, I’m Polish. So in a European family, it was always driven into me that you get what you put your mind to. So drive for the stars, you can be whatever you want to be, and work hard and you’ll get it. So I always did that without putting my disease into account, I guess. So I do preach that don’t let your disease hold you back. Whatever it is, you can still be whatever you want to be. And don’t be a victim of it, be a victor and help other people. And there are going to be days, weeks when can’t do much, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t do the self-care, and the affirmations, and stuff like that.

But with that being said, like you said, if you fight for your whole life, and you’re fighting for your career, and your dreams, et cetera, but you’re ignoring your disease. Then what life do you have without health? So it wasn’t until I realized that. And I guess it was a blessing that I gained all the weight because I don’t know if I would have realized it in another way. It’s like I needed that vanity aspect to get the aha moment. But now that I got it, I’m so blessed for it. It wasn’t until I put all of that, I would say stubborn, but I guess drive towards my health that I was able to get what I wanted in the other parts of my life. So being really aware and fighting for your health and your body. And by fighting, I mean conscious and doing things differently than everyone else around you may be. And having to miss out on the Dairy Queen when everyone else is having it, and telling you that everything’s okay in moderation. But just really trusting your body and learning what that feels like, and what it feels like to be healthy.

There are so many of us, including myself, I had no idea that the things I was eating in two days were causing me issues. I was, if it hurts right now, then, okay, I can’t eat that. But I didn’t realize that going to McDonald’s for a McFlurry every night was causing me inflammation for 12 years. But I didn’t get a McFlurry every night for 12 years. I didn’t realize that it was really causing those many issues. I realized if I ate lettuce and I was in extreme pain after it, maybe I shouldn’t eat lettuce. But it wasn’t like I would start researching what I should need. And if I did, I got confused. It wasn’t a deep dive. It was just this really dark part of my life that I didn’t want to acknowledge.

Sarah: So it sounds almost like there are different types of fighting. And there’s biting, and the hustle, and the grind, and pushing your way through something. And then there’s a fight as in advocating for yourself and standing up for what you believe in, and being open-minded to find something that might be a little bit against the grain. Against the norm of what other people are doing to heal something, in a conventional versus maybe alternative way. So it sounds like you had to shift some of your mindset around food, but also in life as you went through this whole healing journey. And we’re all still on the journey. But what would you say for you, was the shift in the mindset that was required for your deepest healing?

Natalie: I think the biggest thing that I had to realize was to slow down and breathe. Which is it’s funny, but when you’re that kind of person, like you said, the hustle, the grind, it’s always driving forward, but never in my body and never breathing. It wasn’t until I started really focusing on taking a moment, and really taking deep breaths, and sitting in those moments. Because I would try previous meditation, I thought you had to sit there cross-legged for an hour. And I would try yoga, which I didn’t like, because it was boring to me. And I didn’t realize that tuning into my body and listening to myself could be such a healing and relaxing thing. And I didn’t realize how to do it. So once I started finding self-care practices and day to day routines, that I could really tune into myself. That’s when I think everything started changing.

So gratitude lists in the morning, I don’t really like journaling. So I will write a note in my phone. And I found that worked for me. And I can’t sit cross-legged and doing meditation and I usually spend quite a bit of time in the bathroom. So I always joke that I meditate on the toilet. Doing things that, just because I have a different personality doesn’t mean I can’t slow down and I can’t breath, and do that type of thing in my own way, in a way that works. Kind of like healed from within. You just modify it to your lifestyle. I think that’s so important because if we try to force something and put what is it, the square peg into the round hole? It’s not going to be sustainable for you. So finding a way that allows you to possibly enjoy it, and then continue to do it, and make it sustainable is so important.

Sarah: So if you go back, let’s say 15 years ago before this 12-year flare really started to come on strong. What would you say to that version of yourself, that younger girl? What would you say to her 15 years ago?

Natalie: Wow. I’ve never thought of that before. That’s a good one. I would honestly say care about what you’re eating and focus on your body is your temple. And this isn’t just about, because I was young, so high school, and just got a car and going out, eating with friends, and all of that stuff. This is about long-term gain. My parents always fed me good home cooked meals when I was younger. I feel like around that time, 15 years ago, it was where I was like going out all the time, you guys don’t have Tim Horton’s in the States. But Tim Horton’s, coffee every morning and McDonald’s or something at lunch. And just not caring about taking care of myself. So I would say that that’s so important and not to overlook it. And to start loving yourself at that young age, and to learn what you and not care what others think.

Sarah: So with these fluctuations in your weight, can you speak a little bit too, because I think there are so many women out there who it doesn’t have to be a digestive disease, but really any of the chronic illnesses, and all of a sudden their body changes. And sometimes that means weight loss. Sometimes that means weight gain. Sometimes that means rashes on their skin or brain fog. There are just changes that you experienced in the body. So it seems from my perspective of you on Instagram, at least, that you are really connected to just loving yourself as you are. So how are you able to do that and tap into that body love, despite this thing, that’s also changed your body a lot?

Loving yourself as you are

Natalie: Well, thank you so much. That, that means a lot to me that you would say that. Because I definitely haven’t figured it out. I struggle with it every single day. This last change has probably been the hardest I’ve ever dealt with in my whole entire life. I think the only way that I dealt with it is by addressing it. And I don’t really journal, long journals, but I do have a gratitude thing I write every morning, and I’ll write an affirmation, and I’ll write whatever comes to mind and I’ll be okay with it. And I’m really honest with my husband about it. And I talk about it. I think that’s a big one is I talk about it with my close circle. And I’m honest and open and when I’m feeling down. And then they can talk me out of that negative self-talk or at least, show me what I’m saying, and that I would never say that to them.

And so, with doing that, especially in the beginning stages, when it was so bad, I think in doing that, I realized I would never say this to my best friend. I am still saying it to myself in the mirror, so I need to switch that. So I will walk by the mirror and be like, Oh. And then I’ll be like, Oh no, you look beautiful. So it is kind of a mind game, but it’s an everyday thing. And on top of that, is holding onto some of the things that do make me happy that aren’t my physical looks. I love my hair. It makes me happy. Things that just ground me to who I am. I know appearance is still physical, but your style, different things like that, your body might change, but you’re still the person you are on the inside. So the things you love doing those don’t change, the people around you those don’t change. And if you’re vocal about how you’re feeling, then, there’s not much else you can do.

Sarah: Yes. You also have amazing hair. Really cute hair. I know, like you said, it’s a physical thing, but sometimes just finding one thing that you like about yourself, you appreciate that about yourself. Can at least get you out of that downward spiral. Because if we can’t find one thing, then when we get really sucked into that dark hole. And it can be hard to climb back out of it. I’m glad you brought up your husband, because I’ve done two different episodes. The first episode we did together, he was my boyfriend, and my roommate. Then the second episode we did together, he was my fiancé. And so, we’re getting married this October.

Natalie: Congratulations.

Sarah: Thank you. We had a conversation about what is it like to be in a relationship with someone who has chronic illness? And I love to get your take on that as well, being married. And, I think I read somewhere that you’ve been together for a while. So can you just speak to how you manage and navigate a relationship with chronic illness?

Navigating a relationship with chronic illness

Natalie: Yes, absolutely. So we’ve been together eight years in April.

Sarah: Awesome.

Natalie: Married for two this past November.

Sarah: Awesome.

Natalie: I always, and this might be contrary to somewhat some people would say, but I always say that I think it’s harder to be a spouse in a relationship with someone that has a chronic illness, than to be the person who has a chronic illness. At least I felt that way because I know what the pain feels like. I can deal with it. I’ve dealt with it for a long time. It’s my life. So if something happens, like I can’t do something, it’s, I’m the one missing out. But for the person who loves you so much and seeing you in pain, and can’t really do much, it just broke my heart. The way that we navigated the relationship is communication. Always communication.

When we first started dating I had gotten out of a relationship a few years past where, I had to hide the disease and he made me feel bad about it. So when we first started dating, I would be in extreme pain and my husband or boyfriend at the time, would try to rub my back. And I would get upset because I’d be don’t, just leave me alone. Let me be by myself. I want to deal with this by myself. But he nipped that in the bud, right from the beginning, and asked me why. And then I figured that out. And so he was just always there by my side through anything. I wrote about this a few weeks ago, I think, or days ago. And, it was pretty emotional, but the first time I ended up in the hospital while we were dating was within our first year of dating.

And he actually would come before work at five in the morning to braid my hair. Because I had bruises all up and down my arm from IVs. And then he would go home and change and shower and then come back to the hospital and bring food or bring something from my house. And so, I think it was in that moment that I knew he was forever. He wasn’t going to leave my side. And after that hospital trip, it was really easy to just be open with him about anything. And him being my rock, that he is now. I think the weight thing has been one of the hardest for us to navigate, honestly. Because he will call me beautiful or something like that. And I don’t believe him. And that was a hard communication to get through because I think the pain he sees it, we talk about it, he’s there. But more, the mental stuff is and has been a harder journey to navigate.

Sarah: Yes. Chronic illness definitely adds a layer. It just adds a lot. I don’t think it has to be positive or negative. It’s just another layer to a relationship. And it’s something that you can navigate together and figure out as a team and you don’t have to feel alone all the time. And so I know at least, in my community, there’s a lot of women going, where are the men who will be by your side through stuff like this, and braid your hair?

Natalie: They’re there. They’re there.

Sarah: I was going to say they’re out there, and sometimes we just have to manifest them.

Natalie: That is so true.

Sarah: And know that they exist. Yes. I started dating my fiance after being diagnosed with celiac disease, fibromyalgia, some of my main diagnosis. But then the darkest part of my health was when we were in our relationship and three, four panic attacks, anxiety attacks every day. And he didn’t know, he was what can I do for you? And I was just leave me alone. I just need to be in a salt bath, or under a blanket, or something. But at that whole, and I’m fortunate enough now, that I can say I’ve healed my anxiety, but it was really, really hard during the time. And required so much communication for me to be, okay, I’m starting to feel the anxiety. Okay. Yep. It’s here now. Okay. And just being open with that. And I know you’ve talked too about just anxiety that you’ve experienced around round illness. So what are some of the ways that you also manage all the anxious feelings that can come up in association with illness or Crohn’s?

Managing anxiety associated with illness

Natalie: Yes. So something that came to mind with the relationship question, and you kind of mentioned it, is ask for what you need. I think that’s a huge one. I didn’t do that in the past, but then, just by telling him when I’m in pain and don’t know what else to do, you can only bring me water. And that gave him something that he felt he was helping and really did help. So tell them what you need.

Sarah: That’s a really good point. And that I think so many of us, especially women listening, who are primarily my listeners anyways, but we have a really hard time asking for help. So sometimes it’s easier to just be, no, go away. Like I was doing for so long, but he wanted to help me in some way. And it was okay to ask for help. And I love that. Something as simple as you can just grab me a glass of water. Even if you don’t want the glass of water, it makes him feel helpful probably, but oftentimes you need that glass of water too. That’s a really good point to add on.

Natalie: Yes. It makes me feel loved. And I remember so many times I have just a full glass of water in the bathroom sitting there. But even just seeing it would make me feel better and feel that I’m supported. With anxiety, well, it’s such a tough one with illness and it’s so different. It’s different with the people you’re around. It’s different with different social situations, or jobs, or things like that. I think the biggest thing is just to know yourself and to prepare for whatever your disease is going to put in front of you. So for me specifically, if I was going to a social gathering, I would probably be anxious about where’s the bathroom? Am I going to have time to use it? Am I going to have an accident?

So prepare for those things. Maybe if I can look where the bathroom is before going and have some extra stuff in my purse, and maybe pads in the car if I need them. And if I’m going with someone, I don’t know, perhaps have a conversation with them prior. Just if I’m in the bathroom a lot, I have a chronic illness. So instead of just ignoring it and seeing what will happen, and then downward spiral, when something bad happens. And then you go home and it’s just a bad week. Then have it be a bad couple minutes or about half an hour or something like that and have things with you that make it okay.

Sarah: Yes. I love how transparent and open you are about this, because I think there are so many people who are just so embarrassed, or scared, or nervous to have a conversation. But I think what you’ve learned through your own experience, and I can relate to this in my own way, as well. Is just the more you put on the table, the more the anxiety just goes away. And yes, that initial starting the conversation can be scary, but by the end you’re Oh, I’m so glad I was just able to talk about that and get it off my chest. And instead of trying to constantly to hide something about yourself that, in this case, it is something that impacts a lot of your day. So it’s really hard to cover up all the time too.

Natalie: Yes. And I think it’s a little bit of muscle memory, because you say I’m so open about it, but me it’s second nature. I don’t even realize that it’s something to not be open about, but it hasn’t always been that way. It did used to be something that was hard to talk about, but I think you get over the initial first conversations, and each one gets a little bit easier, and a little bit easier.

Sarah: I love that. So I don’t know if you’ll be able to answer this. I’m sure you’ll have some insight on it, but a lot of women listening, or a lot of the people in my community have said, Oh, I’ve been diagnosed with IBS or irritable bowel syndrome versus disease. And for many of them, it’s really frustrating because I think that sometimes this IBS can be seen as a blanket diagnosis, and it doesn’t really get to the root of what’s happening in the body or just doesn’t feel maybe complete for some people.

They’re, okay, now what do I do? Or what’s really going on? Do you have any thoughts on someone who has been recently diagnosed with IBS and how to navigate that? Is there a way to get a deeper answer, or maybe just a way to accept it, or feel like you’re moving in a positive direction?

Natalie: I think IBS seems to be that diagnosis that people get when the doctor’s, you have stomach issues and we don’t know what it is.

Sarah: Yes, exactly.

Natalie: There are so many people all over the place that, I have IBS, I have IBS. And I can’t imagine because that’s must be so frustrating because they’re not getting any help. And they still have a lot of the same symptoms we do. I think I’ve actually helped a few different women who have IBS.

And I think the first step is to really sit down and map out your lifestyle. The four different pillars I always talk about is nutrition, movement, mindset, and goals, future stuff. So how does your nutrition look? Are you eating whole foods or are you eating fast food every day? Maybe that’s a place to start. Are you moving? That doesn’t mean, are you lifting every day at the gym, but are you going for a walk? Is there any movement or you’re working a sedentary job and then, doing nothing else? And are you living a really, really stressed life and not doing any self-care or, morning routine, nighttime routine, not sleeping, that kind of thing. Take a look at your lifestyle patterns and see if there’s something there that you can work on and fix. And if there is, see if that helps. And if the symptoms continue or continue to get worse then just keep fighting for your health. So, go to a natural path, you know, get a second opinion, ask for a colonoscopy. You trust your gut in the sense, even though in this case, your gut is not your friend.

Sarah: It is trying to tell you something by all those symptoms. That is mayday radar, red light going off, pay attention to me, there’s something else going on here. And be your own advocate that, maybe don’t take IBS as the end all be all. Keep digging deeper to figure out what led me to this point? And is there someone who can help me figure out what the deeper layer is. Versus yes, what can feel like a blanket diagnosis of you have digestive pain, you have IBS. And so does 90% of the population.

Natalie: Exactly. Another thing that I always suggest is if you do get diagnosed with IBS or IBD, that you start paying attention. So I know that when you have digestive symptoms, it’s funny, but you don’t realize how many times you going to the bathroom. So I would ask and I’d be five to 30. I don’t know.

Sarah: Somewhere in there.

Natalie: Have a notebook in the bathroom. And I know it’s not fun to write down everything you’re eating. But if you want to just write down the foods you think are causing issues and put an X every time that you eat one of those. But just keep track in one way or another, because the doctor’s going to ask you specifics. If you don’t have specifics, then he or she won’t be able to help you as much.

Sarah: Yes, we get more in touch with our body and realize what are we putting into our body and on our body too, for that matter. But more aware and mindful of our lives instead of operating in autopilot, or just grabbing whatever is on the table. So those are really good and practical, easy tips. I think that anyone listening can implement. So I’m curious as we wrap up here, what do you feel are some of the things that illness has actually taught you or what wisdom have you gained from this whole journey?

Natalie: I love that. That’s a big thing of mine. Is that I’m actually thankful for my Crohn’s disease, which is, yes, it’s different. I think it’s taught me so many different things. And it’s funny to say, but I don’t think I’d be as much of a caring person if I never had Crohn’s. I would be that CEO at the top of a company that didn’t care about anyone else because that’s the trajectory I was on. I wanted just to win life. This really made me slow down and care about other people, and care about other people’s feeling and feeling good. So I think I’m really thankful for that. It, it really gave me a different perspective on life. I’m also thankful for I guess the way that it’s brought me to health.

So I know it’s funny because it is an illness and I am sick, but I also don’t think I would ever be this healthy and care this much about what I put into my body, on my body. How I moved my body, if it wasn’t for Crohn’s disease. So it’s helping me be healthier. [inaudible].

Sarah: Yes, absolutely. I can relate to that. And you’ve really taken something that’s painful and you’ve turned it into your purpose by helping other women with IBD. And just taking all of the things you’ve learned and experience to be able to relate to them on a very intimate level, and also give them resources and support to truly heal. So where can anyone who’s interested find you or work with you?

Natalie: So you can find me on Instagram. It’s @for.the.health. So I’m on Instagram and also I have a website it’s www.forthehealth.ca. And there are no periods in between that one.

Sarah: The regular one must’ve been taken or something.?

Natalie: It’s not taken, but they won’t let an Instagram name be for the health.

Sarah: Really?

Natalie: Yes. It’s not fair.

Sarah: It’s not fair. That’s so interesting. Well, okay. Everyone use the periods in the Instagram. Don’t use the periods in the website, go find Natalie, and get the support that you need. Everyone deserves to have someone in their court and as a support system. So thank you so much for being on today. I appreciate it so much.

Natalie: Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much for tuning in to today’s episode of the healing uncensored podcast. I love you guys so much. I got a message from a listener the other day that literally brought me to tears. I really just want to express all my gratitude to all of you for taking the time to listen. I know your days are jam packed and you have so much on your plate. And if this can just be that little spark of hope in your day, then that means the world to me. That’s the purpose of this podcast to show up, to tell the uncommon stories, and to show alternative other ways to healing beyond food on a soul level.

So again, thank you so much for your support today. And every time you put in your earbuds or listen to the podcasts in the shower, or the car, or while you’re making dinner, or wherever you’re tuning in again, I love you. I thank you. I know it would mean so much to me. If you would just take a quick to go and rate, review and subscribe to the podcast if you haven’t already. Again, I really truly appreciate that. Have a wonderful day. Thanks for tuning in and I’ll see you next time.

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