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Today, my guest is Rachel Reimer, she is a Medical Intuitive who has the ability to see, hear, and feel information from a person’s name and a recent picture.

Rachel created Rae of Hope LLC with the intention of lovingly providing a Rae of Hope on one’s journey. Our physical symptoms are merely physical manifestations of how we feel on the inside. To change physical symptoms, one must address their thoughts and beliefs. Once this starts to occur, the body starts to function better and the individual has a deeper sense of who they are.

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Welcome to the Healing Uncensored podcast. My name is Sarah Small, and I am a health and mindset coach for women with autoimmune disease. Just like you, I absolutely love helping you tap into yourself-healing power, uncover the energetic side of healing, and release limiting beliefs around your body and your life. Think of this podcast as everything you wouldn’t hear at your doctor’s office. it is a place for empowered souls to move beyond food and heal themselves on a soul level. I hope you enjoy today’s episode. Now let us begin.

I just have to express all of my emotions and feelings about this episode to all of you listening today, you are in for a real treat. This is a powerful, powerful episode. My guest is Rachel Reimer. She is a medical intuitive, and it took her a while to figure out that not everyone could do what she could do, but that led her on her personal journey of becoming uniquely her.

Her company is called, Rae of Hope, LLC. And it has the intention of lovingly providing a ray of hope on everyone’s healing journey. It is really important to Rachel that people who have been given up on, still have options if they wish to improve their lives. So she and her company believe the body has the ability to heal itself at the physical, emotional, and spiritual level. As you all already know, I also hold that same belief. So today’s episode is unique in that, I take the client’s seat and Rachel coaches me through my own personal limiting beliefs. This was such a transformational conversation for me and my healing. So, I have massive gratitude for Rachel for sharing her gift with us on this episode. Here is to being really vulnerable and uncensored today. I hope you enjoy this episode. it is as real as it gets.

Sarah: Hi Rachel and welcome to the show.

Rachel: Hi Sarah thanks for having me. I am really happy to be with you.

Sarah: I am so excited to talk to you today. I feel like you are in the same vibration around chronic illness and the understanding of it. The wise, a deeper, deeper levels of healing that I do not think we’ve talked about on this podcast yet. So I am really excited for our listeners to hear this. I was wondering if you could explain to the listeners a little bit about what it is you do. So in your bio, it says that you had the ability to see, hear, and heal information from a person’s name and recent picture, and you are a medical intuitive. So obviously, not everyone has that ability or has at least tapped into that ability within themselves. Can you talk a little bit about how you discovered this within yourself and unlocked that ability in you?

Rachel: Sure. So when I was little, I was a really, really, really sensitive kid and I did not understand why other people were just fine with similar experiences that I would go through. And I remember specifically, one time going to a Girl Scout camp and everyone was having fun in the gym and playing different sports, and hopscotch, and things like that. And I was to the point where I could not even move, because I was so anxious. And I did not really understand why I was anxious all the time. And then, as I kept growing older, I would start seeing things. And I thought that they were just bad things and they thought that everyone would see them. I was actually talking with my partner earlier today about this. There’s a little movie called, “The Details’ and I do not know if any of your listeners are familiar with it or not, but there’s a little asparagus in it that sings a song about God is bigger than the boogeyman and stuff like that.

So to me, I am, okay, other people must see these bad things too. It was kind of a comforting idea. And as I started to describe these things to my mom, in my later teenage years, it was, that is not what other people see Rachel. And I am, well, mom, that is why I have problems sleeping during the night. I woke up from chronic nightmares every single night. Probably until I was about the age of 18 or 19, because I would even see these things. I would physically get touched by things. I would hear noises, or I would see them physically moving doors. and that would terrify me, because I am like, why is no one else scared to go to bed?

And during my healing journey, I found someone that helped me physically. And I said that most people cannot see and she commented on it. And she is, can you see that over there, do you not? And I described that it was the owner’s dad that passed away. And I was looking at him and I’ve gotten to the point at that period of time, that I did it out of the corner of my eye. So I could still look and experience it, but be socially acceptable, not just staring into space kind of thing. But she caught it. And then she said, do you see him over there? And I said, yes, how do you know that? She said, because I can see him too. And I am, I did not know that other people can do that kind of thing. So, she was a really important person in my life, on top of just helping me in my own physical journey, but also the emotional, and spiritual, healing parts as well. And I noticed that once I started to embrace the things that I can see, I started to feel better as a person internally, and my health started to pick up as well.

So I think just a good way to start this podcast as well, is that, a lot of our illnesses are just suppression of who we are. That we are not expressing a certain part of us, that we would love to tell people about, or that we would love to explore.

Sarah: Yes, that is so beautiful. And I am fascinated. I have so many questions for you because I had always been an empath and intuitive being, but haven’t tapped into my clear seeing yet, at least. And it freaks me out, but I am also so fascinated by it. So really, really excited to just be able to have this conversation with you. So you hinted to a little bit of your own healing journey. Have you struggled with chronic illness or what did your own personal healing journey look like?

Rachel: Sure. So in eighth grade, I experienced my first bound of chest pain. And I did not really understand what it was. So I went to a medical doctor because that is what my family raised me to do. We went through a bunch of heart tests and all kinds of cardiac things, and everything came back normal. And then the pain went away. It was just like a big, massive pain that went away. And I did not experience it for a while. And then, slowly into high school to the point of about late sophomore year, I think that was when I really struggled with my health. It came to the point where the chest pain became chronic, and that my whole torso became so swollen that it was hard to sit up for more than five minutes at a time. And I got the diagnosis of TT Syndrome, or it is also known as costochondritis. And the medical version of that is that it is just inflammation of the tissue around your rib cage. And to them, it is just pain. So take an anti-inflammatory, it’ll be fine. So I ended up going through that out of trying the anti-inflammatories and trying all the routes that they wanted me to do, to get that inflammation down, and nothing was working. And the problem kept getting worse, and worse, and worse.

And when you start to see yourself as being able to lose those things that you are able to do in the past. So does your mind, it starts to spiral downhill too. This is getting worse, I know this is getting worse. This is not getting better. Oh crap. Oh crap. Oh crap. And then you start dwindling into the end of the anxiety and depression kind of things. And I got to the point, and this is when I really became frustrated with medical doctors and the medical community. Because they exhausted all of their options with the anti-inflammatory stuff. They then thought that I was making up my condition, and they put me on a bunch of depression medications. And instead of treating me as a person, they ended up going through that and saying, you are making this up for attention kind of thing. And that was a very, very, very frustrating experience to go through.

And I felt like no one was listening to me or listening to the problem. Because at that point in time, in my life, I said mental illness is things like schizophrenia, or bipolar disorder, or something like that. I physically have inflammation in my rib cage, why are you giving me depression medication? And I became really, really angry and, at that point, I gave up going to doctors, and I was, I do not know what is wrong with me. I could have cancer. I could die tomorrow. I do not know, I do not care, it is getting worse. And then, going through all these things, and doing all these procedures, I remember that the doctors would come in and touch my chest. And even someone just putting their hands on it lightly, it would be severely painful. And I am, I cannot keep doing this every single week where a new set of eyes comes in and touches my chest. It almost becomes a traumatic experience going through all those exams as well.

So I gave up doing that, and then, I set the intention of, I know something different needs to happen. It is possible that something in my diet could be causing this. And that is all the intention that I set. And I remember I was a nanny for that summer, and I was watching the TV commercials. And I ended up seeing an ad for a nutritional response testing practitioners. So essentially, what they do is, they go in and figure out the root of your issue. And based on what organs functioning and what is not. And I was, hell I do not know, why not? If she does not have to poke and prod me, sure, let us try it. And that actually was my mentor that I was talking about.

And I am very, very grateful for her. And we did not end up talking about any of the emotional or spiritual stuff for awhile. It was just the point that she could get me physically stable in order for me to start to see and understand the other things going on around me.

Sarah: I resonate so much with what you said about just a doctor, exhausting their options, and then giving antidepressants. It is very confusing as the patient, where you are, no, I do not feel sad. I am frustrated. I do not feel like I am depressed, but you are only giving me this pill option. So you said, you believe that the body has the ability to heal itself. And I, 100% agree, but I think that so many of us forget. We forget that the body does have its own ability to heal itself. And we go straight to that pill, because it seems easier or something. Can you talk a little bit about that? I feel in society today, we are so quick to go grab the pill, but I think it is so important to remind the listeners that the body has its own wisdom. And that we are our own greatest healer.

The body has its own wisdom

Rachel: And I think that is just a cultural thing, that I think as human beings, we all want the easy way out. And any way we can avoid dealing with trauma, that is what we go to. If I can take something, so that I do not have to deal with any of my trauma. That is why, when you still ignore your trauma, it is still there, and it normally creeps into your life in different ways. So, the longer it stays in there, and the more you suppress it, the more it comes out in different shapes and forms. So you even see that with people with PTSD. Soldiers will come home and they are like, I am fine. Or if they know that they are not fine, they are, okay, I will only deal with this stuff. Like at nighttime or something like that. But then, they start realizing that.. When I ended up dating a veteran with PTSD and I remember we were in the car, at one point in time, and I was driving. And it was a nice residential neighborhood, where I grew up, zero crime rate. I remember him panicking because someone was following us. It was literally just around the block. That is a common thing. He was panicking. And he was, you need to turn this corner, and this corner, in this corner, and I am, what is wrong? He is like, someone is following us. Someone is trying to hurt us. Someone is trying to kill us. So I am, we are fine. We are in the suburbs of Iowa, we are by a park. No, one is going to kill us here. We are okay. And to him, he had started to have no control over it, because he suppressed it for so long. And that is kind of what happens just with our emotions in general, as well. You have ever seen someone that has had a bad day at work, and instead of dealing with it right then and there. They come home and then they take it out on the kids, their significant other, and other family members because they did not deal with it right then and right there.

And when people do not deal with that trauma or something that affected them negatively. It stays with them and affects other parts of their lives. And I deeply believe that it is stored in a physical sense, because that is just what we are as human beings. As an example, I am just transitioning into the work that I do. I am trying to think of the specific wording that I’ve heard before. You have ever heard someone say, you are giving me a headache? Or some kind of phrase on the lines of that? And then, later, they actually physically develop a headache. Our bodies score those beliefs into certain compartments but depending on what beliefs we have. So another example, I am sure some of you guys have seen this on TV, where there’s a horrific car crash or something like that. And someone cannot handle it. They see blood, or death, or something, they cannot handle it. They go to the side and start throwing up.

According to someone like Louise Hay, throwing up is a sign of rejection. So we are immediately taking that emotional trauma, stuffing it into our bodies right away. And then, using the physical response to see how well we have stored that information. It is our physical symptoms are basically stating that something is still bothering us. That is essentially what it is. So, even if you can look at it from more of a neutral point of, okay, something is just not working correctly. Like a check engine light on a car, compared to just breaking out of, it should not be this way. I should not be hurting. It should be functioning correctly. That happened every single time that the check engine light or something went on in our cars. We would go crazy all the time. So that is one thing that we can also do, is just look at it from a neutral perspective, and say, okay this is not working. As long as I am temporarily stable, or I am not in the hospital. I am not dying. Let us look at what could possibly be going on.

Sarah: Yes. I love your analogies, they are very crystal clear. I loved those. Can you talk a little bit about then, why and how chronic illness comes about?

Why and how chronic illness comes about

Rachel: Yes. So chronic illness is essentially when one of those beliefs happened, and then, we never confront it. It just literally stays in there and it is locked in there. As far as autoimmune disorders go, which is kind of what this community is about, from my understanding. Autoimmune disorders, are normally attacking the self, and holding onto a belief that you are not good enough. That something that you have done has hurt someone else. It is physically attacking yourself. And that is only what the body is doing as well. The body is attacking its own tissues. From an emotional standpoint, we are literally attacking her own being, as a soul.

For example. I am trying to think of something that I have in particular. I noticed that, just as I can see my body in the way that I work. I noticed that my thyroid flares up when I come from the standpoint that I am not doing enough. That I am not working hard enough. And when that happens, then an autoimmune reaction starts to happen, because I am not loving myself. I being angry at myself, and I am taking all that anger out on myself, of why are you not good enough? Why are you not doing this? Why are you not doing that? And when we keep shifting that blame on us, and constantly having that negative energy on us, our body literally starts to go in and starts to attack itself. I have noticed too, just a pattern in general, with autoimmune conditions from a physical standpoint, when I work with providers. Is that, normally, a virus shows up. So, as far as an entertainment purpose statement, instead of like an educational thing. From an entertainment purpose, my mentor taught me that viruses are like a light switch. So when you turn a light switch on, things are active. And that is like a flare-up that people go through with autoimmune diseases or chronic illnesses. When the light is on, things are active, things are going on. When the light switches off, things are dormant and there are not any flare-ups.

I think that that is a really important piece to acknowledge, because a lot of the times doctors are not treating viral things, and autoimmune conditions because there is no test. It is hard to prescribe something for something that you cannot 100% confirm it is there. And that is the extremely frustrating part, is that there is not a lot of viral testing.

Sarah: Yes. I found in my own personal healing journey, that it is about going into the deeper layers to try and figure out, okay, well, I have this kind of surface-level symptom, but why, what message is it sending me? And what is the deeper layer underneath? Is it a virus? Is it hormonal imbalance, et cetera? And I think that more of us need to look at it from that point of view. Of what is the message that your body is sending you, versus let us cover this up with, whatever medication, or ignore it, et cetera. What about, just because I know a lot of women in my community struggle with digestive stuff. Do you have any insight on the emotional roots? Or what they might be blocking if they have a digestive illness?

Rachel: Sure. So to me, all beliefs are individualized. If we are talking from a more broad perspective, like a Louise Hay standpoint, I just did this, she is really, not being able to digest the things going on in your life. So it may be that let us say you just had a divorce, and you moved somewhere else, and you just started a new job. That is a lot to take in all at once. And you know what? Your body’s trying to sit there, and function, and that it is  not able to. That is just one way that it goes, and then it gets stored. Thyroid conditions from a Louise Hay perspective again. Thyroid conditions are normally related to some kind of rage, or anger of not speaking up, or not being good enough. So, I see that a lot from a patient standpoint, with 30 to 40-year-old women. When they have a career, when they have a little one at home and when they have a spouse. And normally, one of those is significantly imbalanced, and they take their anger out on the other two.

Sarah: I am going to be very interested to hear listener feedback, and hear what people are going, ah ha, yes, that is me. And if they resonate with some of these. Are there any, like you said, it is an individualized thing, that you do in your work. But are there any other common themes, maybe with eyes, eye inflammation? You talked about the thyroid, you talked about digestion, maybe even ovaries or hormones, any common threads there.

Rachel: Yes. So, a lot of things with fibroids, and endometriosis, and things like that, those are normally associated again from a Louise Hay perspective of not feeling enough of a woman, or enough of a partner. And that might be manifested in, I am doing all of the housework at home, and I am not being appreciated. Or I’ve done all of this, which I thought my husband would expect me to do and it is not good enough. Or my child’s complaining that I am not home enough, and as a woman or as a mom, I should be home spending time with them. Whatever your stereotypical image is of a woman, and then not being fulfilled, normally relates to female endocrine especially the reproductive issues. And that is a major one. Swelling is another common one that I see, typically with older females. And that is normally related to built-up anger. To literally swollen with anger.

Sarah: Interesting that even cartoons depict that. A cartoon, when the cartoon character gets pissed off, they show the head expanding and turning red. Like your head is about to blow off. It is this visual of swelling of this anger, the rustling up to the surface. And even cartoons that we watch, from we are little kids.

Rachel: Yes. Another one with the lungs is, have you guys ever had a nice, good cry. And afterward you take that deep breath and you are, I can feel better? A lot of grief and not letting out sadness is typically related to lung dysfunction, and the lungs not functioning properly. That is another big one. Normally irritation to someone close. So if you have a chronic sinus infection, or sinus infections frequent you, that is probably someone, an irritation with someone close to you. Whether that be a spouse, a coworker, a child, something along the lines of that. A specific example with a sinus infection could be, that you open up to your spouse about how great this new project is that you are doing. And then they completely ignore you. Irritation. How could you not? That is such a, I am trying to figure out the right word for that. That was such a humiliating experience, that you give your heart and soul to someone, and then they completely just put up a wall and ignore that. And that is typically related in the sinuses or expressed in the sinuses.

Again, that is not always the case. Everyone stores their beliefs in an individualized manner. But as far as just typical patterns go, that is kind of what Louise Hay has listed out there for everybody.

Sarah: Yes. Her work is so incredible. I think some of the ones I have heard too are, breast cancer, or even cysts in your breasts, tend to be like caregivers, when you–

Rachel: Nurturing hearts.

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: Fibromyalgia. I had another mentor teach me, that fibromyalgia is typically related to male abandonment. It is interesting that a lot of females that I have met and I have worked with as patients. And even just personally, the people that have fibromyalgia typically felt abandoned by some male figure, in their life.

Sarah: So, it is kind of crazy you say that, because I developed or was at least diagnosed with fibromyalgia. But my pain really started a few years earlier. So, I was diagnosed when I was about 17 years old. My parents got divorced when I was like 12, 13 years old, and my dad moved out. And then, my pain started and it took us like three, four years to figure out, what was this pain? Eventually, it was diagnosed fibromyalgia. But as I have reflected on my own life, I see it also as this weight of the world on my shoulders. This chronic kind of inflammation of feeling I am burdened and overloaded and have too much to take care of. Have you ever heard that interpretation of it as well?

Rachel: Yes. So it is just feeling abandoned. I would say it is just feeling like no one is showing up for you. If that makes sense.

Sarah: Yes. I relate to that too. And that my parents were both wonderful people, very loving people, but my younger siblings demanded extra attention, because of mental health issues, and everything. And here I was getting A’s and going to soccer practice, and for the most part, behaving myself. So, I did not really need as much parenting, I guess. But I think then, my body then took that, and it manifested in a different way, because then I was not getting all the attention and love that I probably desired.

Rachel: And that is a perfect example too, about how you logically just ration that out, on how it should not have been a big deal. And I always look at it from the viewpoint, of what you were also talking about, is that when you emotionally are hurt. And when your heart hurts with it, and the heart part of that is not healed, that is what tends to get stored in there. So let us say, someone takes a baseball bat to your favorite car, breaks out all your windows, something along the lines of that. You could be pissed and head forgive someone, and verbally say it. I forgive you. That is completely different than a heart forgive you or, have you completely let it go.

Sarah: Yes. Yes. I can feel the difference. Even when you were just saying, I can feel the difference of when I am forgiving somebody, more on this surface level versus my actual soul, heart is forgiving somebody. And actually releasing then, that anger or resentment from my energy body, versus just saying it, but then holding it on, in my energy body.

Rachel: And that is the whole premise behind that too. I heard some quote about this. I do not remember where it came from. But, “Resentment is only the poison that you swallow”. So in the case, with the person coming in with a baseball bat and knocking out all your windows in your car. If you say, okay, I forgive you. Chances are, they might be over it and they might be okay. Sarah truly forgave me in this situation. But you still hold on to it. In your way of holding onto it that means that you are right. A lot of us hold onto resentment like that. Even though we have had forgiven them, because if I let it go, that means I was wrong. And that is a whole ego premise, and that is not necessarily true whatsoever. And that is part of the work that I also do as well, is going in and figuring out how that might not be true. Or if it is true, how you can be 100% okay with it to let it go.

Sarah: Yes. I think the ego has such a strong voice within each of us, that we really have to keep it in check. And keep going is that ego, is that fear state talking, or is that the part of me that wants to stay safe and play small? Or is it like my true self? Do you have any tips for taming people’s ego? Because sometimes that voice comes in so strongly.

Taming the ego

Rachel: So what I do and what I experience and what has worked is, I will give my ego time to come out. So like what a little kid does, is, let us say every Sunday. Every Sunday, we are going to go out for ice cream. And every Sunday, that kid knows that they are going to go out for ice cream. If you say, look, ego, we are going to talk Wednesday morning. On Wednesday morning I am going to let you say whatever you want. And typically during that time, we will sit and journal. I will just write down every single thing it says. And then, I am aware of what is bothering me. So my ego feels heard. I can sit and work through it. And then, that also helps me on a spiritual level of being okay with things, and letting things go. It actually works to the benefit, when you allow your ego to talk, but not let it talk all the time.

Sarah: Right. Give it its 30-minute session, a little meeting with you. And then, it does not get to come out rest of the week. I really like that. So I am sure, and I am very excited about this too, but I am sure listeners would love to have a live demonstration of the work that you do as a medical intuitive. And everyone listening, I volunteered myself. So I am very excited to experience this with Rachel. And have her read a little bit of my energy, and see. I asked her to just do a blank reading. She does not really have any insight into what is going on in my body. She’s just going to read my energy today, and we are going to see what comes up. So I am excited to hear what you see.

A reading for Sarah

Rachel: So I am only going to do emotional and spiritual things, because it is not what I only deal with personal clients. Anytime someone wants my help with determining maybe if they have a virus, or a bacterial infection, or something like that, I always refer them over to the providers that I work with. So for this case, since you are in the sense, a personal client, we are just going to treat you like one. So going into it, if I just have a blind reading, the first thing that pops up to me is energy in the liver. Liver is normally associated with anger. So this is my process out loud.

Okay. Does anger resonate in this case? Yes it does. Okay. So, let us figure out what that anger is related to. Is it related to a family member? No. It is a related to a friend. Yes. Okay. Is it related to a significant other figure? No. Is it related to health stuff? No. Job and money? Job, career, money? Is it related to anything else in this point in time? No. Okay. When did the anger with the friends start? Was it zero to two years ago? No. Was it zero, five years ago? No. Six, seven, eight, nine, 10. 10 years ago. Which would be 2008-ish. Okay. Do you know this friend from school? Kind of, but not necessarily. Okay. Was it a guy? No. Girl? Yes. Okay. So I can keep digging for details. It just depends on how much you want me to dig. If this specifically resonates with you, we can go in and try it out. You can also list off a few names of friends that you had around 2008. And I can tell you if they are going to hit on that or not.

Sarah: Yes. I am surprised that it is a friend, because I thought it was going to be a family member. But I also–

Rachel: Sometimes we process family members as friends.

Sarah: I have an interesting relationship with my mother, in that we are more friends, than we are mother/daughter. And it is been that way for a very long time, at least in my eyes. I do not know if she would agree with me or not.

Rachel: But that is the way that you take it in internally. And I agree with that point, that it is your mother. So let us go in and figure out exactly what the scenario was, that happened. Do you have any particular memory in mind when I bring up 2008 with your mom?

Sarah:  So I think of 2008 and I think about how I was in college. And I am like visualizing that period of life. So I was not living at home anymore. I was in college. I would have been probably a sophomore, second year of college. I cannot think of a specific specific event that, or like a blowout, a fight, or anything like that, that is coming to mind right away.

Rachel: What was going on around that time with your relationship with her? Were you closer than normal? Were you further apart than normal?

Sarah: We were closer than we are now.

Rachel: Okay. Where are you closer than you were in your early childhood?

Sarah: Early childhood, yes.

Rachel: Is there a specific event that you can think of around that, 2008? Time period where you needed your mom and she couldn’t show up for you?

Sarah: So, during that time, I think it was that year. She broke up with a fairly serious boyfriend. And then, went through that whole break up and then, started to see some other men. Who I did not like very much. That was kind of happening during that time. Yes. I remember being away a lot. I was not home very much, but we would talk on the phone.

Rachel: Do you feel like you desire your mom’s opinion or approval when you talk about something? Like mom, I am thinking about doing this job, or how do you think I should handle this situation with a friend? Do you look for her for that guidance, and that confidant feeling?

Sarah: I want to be heard, I think. I want her to be a better listener ,and maybe she stopped listening so much as well. Stop being as good of a listener around that time period. But then, her life went through this shift and she really started focusing on her own shit, and her own problems. And so, our conversations then completely shifted to her life, and the things she was going through. And I think, I felt like then, there was no space for me to express myself, and for her to express interest, and concern, and love, and comfort around my life, because it became all about her life. And like I said, it was this kind of friendship relationship. And then it was just two girls talking about boys, but it was more focused on what she was going through, than what I was experiencing. Does that sound right?

Rachel: Yes. So when you are sitting and talking about that, I picked up the belief what I have to say is not important. And that is probably related to that mother figure. And I would also assume that you have had that experience with a few other friends, or family members in a relationship sense.

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: Well, now that we have the belief pinpointed. We are going to go in and figure out how that is not true, or how you can be 100% okay with it.

Sarah: Okay.

Rachel: So during that time, or even to this current point in time, since you are holding onto it on an energetic level anyway. How can you be okay that what you have to say is not important to your mom? Was she in the physical or emotional capacity, to listen to you at that point in time? Or was she too overwhelmed to see that you were also struggling or also needed attention?

Sarah: Yes, I think absolutely. I think even being what 10 years removed from that, shift in our relationship. I can also see it with clear eyes, which is just that, yes, she was really overwhelmed. And had not only relationship stuff she was going through, but also a lot of troubles with my siblings, that they were going through, that she wanted to be there for them as well. And they were all still back at home. And here I was, away, farther away at college. And so, to your point, I think, yes, she was not able to be there as much as I wanted her to be.

Rachel: Is it also possible that I think just all of us in general, especially going through those high school-college, and just younger adult years of you are my mom, you should show up for me. No matter what is going on with you in your life, your job is a mom first. Because that is what a kid’s view is of parents, they kept you alive this long. They showed you the ropes. That is still their job. No matter what age you are, it is still their job to be able to go in and be there for you when you need it.

Sarah: Yes. And I think that is also another piece of resentment. Yes. I think I definitely resent that. I resent never feeling like a child. And being treated like the mediator between my parents, since I was about 12 years old. And so then, being treated as an adult, and having to grow up at 12 years old. 12 years old, instead of growing up in a more organic, natural way. It was, Oh, okay you need to be responsible for yourself and your siblings. And there was not as much guidance, after that period in my life. And I think I hold a lot of resentment for that. Because it is, Hey, I just want it to be a kid. And I did not feel at least, that I was able to be a kid.

Rachel: And during that time, when you were in college, do you know approximately how old your mom was?

Sarah: So she is, let us see, 2008 minus ten. Forty-six.

Rachel: Okay. Forty-six-ish. So now can you think of an adult, any adult that you know fairly well, that is around that same age of 46?

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: Okay. So are they human beings, and they make errors, and they are going through their own shit, correct?

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: Okay. Take that same viewpoint, and put that with your mother. Do have the exact same stuff, that other people, her age are going through? And just because she is your mom does not mean that, it is her number one priority. She’s just a human being at the end of the day. And it is much easier when you can see that, from someone that is not your parent, around that same age. I am like, Oh my God, they are struggling with things. I remember working  in a chiropractic office with people my parents’ age. And them wanting to talk to me. I do not know if I can pay for my mortgage this month. I might divorce my wife, that is why my head really hurts. You just sit and have normal conversations. I never heard any of my parents say that.

And I think that that is why I internalized and I think that is why a lot of kids do. If they are not aware of them as just human beings later on in life. So I think now that you saw that image of that adult around that 46 year old age, I think you have a lot more compassion of, my mom was just going through shit. And that is okay. This is not personable at all. She does not even know what to do with herself. That must have really felt that she was overwhelmed.

Sarah: Yes. Am not 46 yet, but I am 30 and I am going, okay I do not have any children. And I was just joking with a friend the other day, I was, I would not be able to take care of a kid right now because I have enough of my own shit going on. To guide another soul into this universe would be way too overwhelming.

Rachel: Is it not? Well, just going in and working on that, I got that belief system was healed out at 60%. Let’s see if we can go and maybe add a little bit more. Talking about something similar. I am trying to think of another thing that was connected to that situation here. Did you try calling your mom and she just did not return your calls?

Sarah: She is pretty good at calling back.

Rachel: Well, I can see– What did you say?

Sarah: She is pretty good at calling back. If she misses a call, she is pretty on it, she calls back quickly.

Rachel: Were there events that you wanted her to go to and she would say I am busy? What is with the busy concept that she could not make enough time for you?

Sarah: I may harbor some resentment as well because she never visited me. So she came to my Master’s degree graduation, but that was the only time I saw her, where I lived in Chicago, for the four or five years I lived there. And then in college, she came down for a couple of emergencies, but then other than that, it was just, again for graduation. Because she was working and she had three kids at home. So I think that is what is coming up for me, intuitively is that maybe I thought she was just too busy with work and kids, to make time for me when I was living away from her. So it was always me going back for my mom and my dad to see them. It was me making the trip, me saying, I am going to be here now. I am going to make time for you since you do not come to see me.

Rachel: And I got off of that is the belief that I, what I am doing is not important. So let us go on and look at that on how that is not true. Again, I would imagine that has carried over into different parts of your life as well.

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: What are you doing, is it important? So during that time, was that necessarily true? Because what you have told me, that does not seem true. It just might not have occurred to her how important it was to you.

Sarah: Yes. I do think that is a limiting belief and I think that I was always looking for validation and for both of my parents to say, Hey, we are really proud of you. You are doing an awesome job. You are killing it, girl. Because I tried really, really hard and I have always been a really hard worker, really worked my ass off through college. And so, I think I probably was seeking some sort of recognition for that.

Rachel: And I think from your mom’s viewpoint of what it feels like, and when I see through her eyes anyway it says the less that I get in the way of my daughter the better. Because, the less that I’m involved, the more she’s thriving on her own. And that’s how proud I am of her. If I have to come over every single night that means, as a parent, I’m doing something wrong. But if she could go out there and do her own thing, to survive by herself. Look at her now, holy cow. And I think that was her perspective on doing that. And it wasn’t supposed to be a hurtful thing, because I think she wants you to learn to grow big. You’re doing awesome by yourself. If I need to step in and tell you something like that, I’m afraid I’m going to make you regress. Of doing the little kid thing of, oh mom, I have a picture do you like it, kind of thing? She is, you are already past that. Keep going, you don’t need me anymore. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen a cartoon animation, where you see the sequence of this baby. And then it’s growing up, learning how to hunt or something. And the parents are, well, your on your own. For them, that was a proud thing. If the little boy was like, okay, I have got to this or something, and he’s looking around, and he’s like, why is no one proud of me? But in the parent’s view that was the best honor possible, was leaving him alone to go out and do his thing. So even just thinking that viewpoint, is helpful as well too.

Sarah: Yes, that’s actually extremely helpful, because I think that is probably how my mom would try to express herself, vocalize her point of view. If that feels very on point, as far as, you were doing great. And when I would come home and we went, I do not know, out in public somewhere and we have spoken to somebody, we knew, it was, oh Sarah, she is doing this, and this, and this. And it was, I was always surprised when she would brag about me, almost, in front of her friends. Because I’d be, Oh, you noticed that. And I did not realize she was listening until she was then telling other people about me. And I was, Oh, you are noticing this, but you are just not telling me to my face, vocally, verbally to me. So, I remember having these epiphanies when I would come home and be, oh, she is following what I am doing. It is just in her own way, she is acknowledging me.

Rachel: It is like the mom preparing baby birds and nurturing baby birds, and then she is, all right it it time to go. And the baby birds fly and they are, are you proud of me? I am flying mom. They just go out and do their thing. So I think she was from a loving place, and it was not meant to intentionally hurt whatsoever. It was more out of a place of love, and that is fine. So, now that I’m going in and looking at that point in the liver, it feels dissolved and I bet right here on the right side, right underneath your breasts. I bet that that feels a lot looser. This is typically where the reflux is located. You will start to feel that muscle to start to smooth over and the inflammation start to dissipate. So that is essentially the work that I do.

Sarah: Yes, thank you so much, Rachel. That is really, really helpful. I feel in that part of my body, I felt it more through, I could not take a deep breath, because my rib could not expand, and let my lung expand fully and so constricting. And I have always had a pretty tight core as well. Just my whole life is, I clenched and I hold so much into my stomach and protection. Protecting myself there by clenching and having a strong core to protect myself. But now it feels like I am a little softer and gentler today.

Rachel: Typically, it takes about a day or two for the physical signs to fully go in and manifest what really exists. As an example, I worked on a guy college student the other day. He ended up going to the doctor and getting steroids. He had huge hives all over his body and we ended up sitting, and doing this. Except I only had him fill out a form, and I gave my answers back to him. The next day, his hives were completely gone on his body. So that is just a cool thing of how fast that those things can go and then physically dissolve. We might have to go on and figure out what is blocking us, and figure out how we can become okay with it.

Sarah: Yes. It’s interesting for me too, because my liver, based on the functional medicine tests that I have done on the physical side, a lot of what. It is all this cascade, everything’s communicating with each other. And my liver is the center of a lot of what I am struggling with physically. Like melasma and my skin, where it is estrogen, I have excess estrogen. Estrogen is unable to properly detox and eliminate from my body, which happens through your liver. And I struggled with horrible acne for years. Again, your liver is not cleansing all the toxins from your body, so that shows up in your skin. And so much of my physical symptoms have been on the surface, because I think my liver has been so clogged up with, just fricking emotions, and anger, and resentment. So it is, okay, we are busy, we are full over here. Out of service, go to the skin and let the skin detox, whatever else is in your body. And then, obviously having toxins in my diet. Well, before I started healing it was even more of a load on my body.

Rachel: From a physical standpoint as well, chest pain is a liver reflex. So right over that area that you were also pointing to, there is no signs of cardiac distress, and it is not an emotional thing with your heart. A lot of the time, but that is also a liver reflex. Again, which is connected to some kind of anger. If we are going off the broad generalizations, that is another thing that you could go and connect to as well.

Sarah: That is really interesting too, because as a bioenergetic practitioner and some of the work that I do, I scan people’s energy bodies. And when I scan my own body using an actual, scanner machine, when I see the image of it on my screen, my heart shows up every single time. And I am always, okay, every time I have gone to a doctor and my heart is completely fine, there is nothing wrong. I do not have high cholesterol or anything like that. But I have always sensed it is an emotional thing in my heart, of anger, pain, bubbling up from the liver, maybe going into the heart a little bit.

A reading of Sarah’s heart

Rachel: If you want, we could do the heart thing too, because I know that is important to you, if you have some time.

Sarah: Yes, let us try the heart. Sure. I hope the listeners are freaking loving this, because I am loving this.

Rachel: It is from two years old. So, not a lot of people in our life when we are two years old. So let us go in and ask. Is it family members? Yes. Okay. Is there anyone else involved? Family members at that time could be, mom, dad. Okay, dad. I am trying to think of what a normal two year old’s life is like. Okay. Do you have any specific memory that pops up with dad around the age of two? If not, I can continue digging.

Sarah: Yes. I do not remember anything from that age.

Rachel: So I have to do. I am trying to think of what a two year old’s life is like. Toys. It doesn’t have to do with toys. Have to do with him, yelling at you. That is okay. Yelling at you. Dad yelling at you two years old. Did you feel like you were going to get hurt? No. Did you feel like you were doing something wrong? No. Did you feel like he didn’t love you? Yes. In terms of when these memories happen so early, I will connect it with other existing memories that you can think of. Can you think of a time, just throughout any time in your lifetime when your dad has yelled at you, and you felt like he doesn’t love you? You could picture a time when he has been very upset, and his anger has been directed at you.

Sarah: So my dad’ is really interesting in that, he does not react quickly to anything. So he is very much the person who, if you ask the question, he will say, I will think about it. And then tomorrow he will give you an answer. So he takes a lot of time to craft his response to most things in life. I have seen him get very angry before, but he is not naturally someone who is going to explode or blow up. So he has been sober for over 10 years now. Maybe a little bit over 10 years, but I think that when he was still drinking, that potentially, those were also moments then that he might not have taken as much time to make an answer. And he might have had more of a yelling response.

Rachel: But you cannot recall any of that time period where he might have acted like that, during his drinking?

Sarah: Not really. He was my soccer coach. So, that was the first thing I thought of, was him yelling as a soccer coach, but not in an angry way. And like, go girls score goals. We are going to win, go get them type of just being a coach. I think I remember him more yelling at my younger siblings, than I remember him yelling at me. I definitely got in trouble as a teenager though. And my dad and I had a lot of bumping heads, when I was a teenager.

Rachel: With the teenager, was there a situation with clothes? It involved clothes, so that you ended up getting into a yelling match with him or he lost his temper over something?

Sarah: I am sure he did not like the clothes I wore. He did not like the people I hung out with. He did not like that I was dating. He wanted me to just to lock up all my lady parts and stay at home.

Rachel: Okay. You need to be shown a different story, so that Sarah can understand what is going on. Do you feel like your dad would ever give you individualized attention? So let us say that if you were sitting at the table eating, would he eat with you guys, or would he just give you food and walk away?

Sarah: I remember I mostly cooked dinner at his house. So he would eat dinner with us. But he also owns his own business, so he was always working a lot and on his phone.

Rachel: Okay.

Sarah: And I think maybe not specific to the dinner table, but just more life in general. I do not get hardly any one on one time with him.

Rachel: Okay. Is that something that makes you upset?

Sarah: My mental, my voice wants to say no, but I feel in my heart, I feel emotional about that. So my first reaction is, no, it’ is fine. But then, in my chest and in my head, I am, Oh no, that does bother me.

Rachel: Okay. I think I understand the connection now, because dad does not spend one on one time with me. It feels like he does not love me. And I think that is, again, a heart thing not a head thing with what you were going in and talking about. This is a much harder thing to go in and look at, how that is not true, or how you can be 100% okay with it. Because we have the viewpoint as kids, my parents should love me, and they should show up for me, and they should do these things. So how can we get you okay with your dad, that you feel like your dad does not love you, because he does not spend one on one time with you? Why do you think your dad does not spend one on one time with you? You said, because he has his business stuff. Is that one answer that pops up?

Sarah: One answer yes. He he is a very hard worker. He has a successful business. Now, we do not live in the same state anymore. But also he has remarried. He has a wife and I felt for a long time that she is the priority over his children.

Rachel: What is another excuse? Minus the not living in the same state, his wife being another priority, and him being a business owner? From the little kid Sarah’s perspective at 12. Why can’t my dad spend one on one time with me? Or he does not spend one on one time with me, because of?

Sarah: All my other siblings. There were four of us. My one brother has passed, but it was like there is too many of us for him to have time with each of us separately.

Rachel: Okay. And are there any other excuses that pop up in your head, or points that come up in your head of, he could not spend one on one time with me?

Sarah: I think before he met his now-wife, I think he also was dating, trying to find love again.

Rachel: Okay. So from an ego perspective, why do you not feel you are more important than your other siblings or his dating life? What do you feel is wrong with you, that he could not do that? Again, very, very, ego standpoint. So let us say what is one of your sibling’s names?

Sarah: Joe.

Rachel: Why would he spend time with Joe over you? If he did?

Sarah: Joe needed more attention.

Rachel: Okay.

Sarah: Joe, could not take care of himself as well as I could take care of myself.

Rachel: Okay. So you almost got overlooked?

Sarah: Yes. Going back to a little bit of the mom stuff too. Where it is, I wanted to be heard.

Rachel: So he thought you did not need him. So this is where it is clicking. He thought you did not need him. So, if we are going from the, what is your dad’s name?

Sarah: Tom.

Rachel: Tom. Okay. So we are going into the head of Tom, of Sarah’s okay right now, by herself. She is out with her friends. She is able to cook dinner by herself. She is able to take care of all of her own needs. She seems okay. Joe, on the other hand, is over here struggling. And he is missing me and my mom, me and my wife together, or he is not doing well at school or something else. So does that mean that he did not love you, because he thought you did not need him?

Sarah: No.

Rachel: No. So let us do the analogy of a toddler learning to walk, or a toddler learning to ride his bike, or something like that. If you let go, in your head and you are like, I can do it by myself. I am perfectly okay. And the toddlers find it maybe you did not think that I was important enough to do this with me. This is an important thing for me. I wanted to spend time with you, to do this together. So the child took it from the point of a bonding activity, when the adult, and a lot of adults do this, I am even guilty of this, of doing it. Things being done in a practical manner. Never seen adults that just want to go in and cook their own meals because they are, I can do this 20 times faster, if I just do it. Rather than a bonding experience of cooking with the child. Those kinds of pictures pop up for me anyway.

Sarah: Yes those are significant for me as well. So I feel it is all coming together.

Rachel: Looking back in that situation, you said you were around 12 cooking for him.

Sarah:  Yes.

Rachel: Can 12-year-old Sarah be okay with the idea that my dad does not think I need him, and that is okay.

Sarah: Yes. She can.

Rachel: Yes, and that is okay. I could have just spoken up and I did not. And I did not know how to, because I did not know how to process it. Because I was fricking 12 years old.

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: If I was an adult, I understand that and I understand he was not trying to hurt me. He loves me. He was not trying to show me, he did not love me. I just took it like that. And now, I have the opportunity as an adult to understand my dad does love me. And, if I do want to spend time with him, I can reach out to. And explained to him that dad, I really do need you and I want to spend time with you, because it makes me feel loved. And I really want to build that relationship with you. And even if you do not want to do that, that is also okay.

Sarah: Yes yes.

Rachel: So there are two options on how to handle the situation.

Sarah: And I think my brain has always been diverted to, they do not love me. They do not care. I am not important. What I am not doing is not important. It is challenging to then, see it from their point of view. And I think it really helps to have the third party, like you or somebody, to be, well, was that malicious? Was it that they did not love you? No, it was not. Or with my mom, was she just doing the best she could? Yes. But I think it is hard for us to frame it that way on our own. It is so helpful to be able to pick apart the pieces, dissect it with someone else, to then see it from a different lens and a different perspective.

Rachel: Absolutely, so tying that together, going back to that two-year-old self. Are you and your siblings close in age, around that two-year mark?

Sarah: My brother, Jordan, who is no longer with us, was just under two years younger than me. And then, Joe’s about five years, six years younger than me, and Anna is nine, 10 years younger than me.

Rachel: So when he started to come into the picture, it is I do not get that one on one time with my dad anymore.

Sarah: Oh yes, because I was two, you are right.

Rachel: Well, that would be the first memory of that coming in. And that is where that belief got stored. It is all the way back to two years old.

Sarah: Two years old.

Rachel: It is not his intention whatsoever. He is, Oh my God, I have another fucking kid on the way. It is not that he does not love you. It’s, I have got to take care of this thing that cries all the time too.

Sarah: Well, yes, that is right, spot on, as far as the age difference, for sure.

Rachel: So again, it is just going in and looking at it as, my dad did want me. It’s just, that he was trying to take care of all this shit going on.

Sarah: Yes, yes. And just doing his best. He was only 24 years old.

Rachel: Oh my god, absolutely. You are making me cry. And little kids take that personally because they are the people that should care about us, and be 100% of our world. And I think I suffer from that, as an older sibling too. I had twin brothers that came in right after me, eighteen months later. I was about two years old when they were babies. I remember, I think, when I was three or four, I got pissed at one brother. It was probably because my parents did not give me attention. And I banged his head into a brick wall and cracked his head open. I was pissed. but, we cannot control those feelings when we are that little, because it is all ego. That is all the terrible twos. It is all ego. I want my way now because it is my world.

The ringing in Sarah’s ear

Sarah: Yes. I have another question for you. One more personal question. So, the whole time we have been on the call, I have had a lot of buzzing, a deep ringing. Not a high ringing, a deep ringing in my left ear. And I felt something on my left side, the whole time you have been talking. Do you sense anything on my left side?

Rachel: So, I actually had a case a while ago. It was a lawyer, and she had constant ringing in her ear for over a year. And I tracked it down to relating to some kind of work. I have heard getting to do more civil law stuff. And she told me that when she was in there doing the government stuff, that is the stuff that she really hated. Ironically, the day that she went to the hospital, it was supposed to be the day that she was in charge of a meeting for that government plans that she did not agree with. So it was her way, her body’s way of saying, listen up, this is not working for you.

Sarah: Yes.

Rachel: So let us go in and look at that. It was that family, no. Friends, no. Relationship or significant other, no. Job, recruit job no. Career, no. Money, no. Health, yes. Okay. So it concerns with health. Oh, okay. That is cute. Okay. So I just kind of go through a mental process of asking questions sometimes. Just because it is quicker for me to go through and do it in my head. Have to do with health, your concerns with health. Yes. Again, ears are normally not listening. They tell me to tell you, you can be fixed. What you have can be gone, if you want it to.

Sarah: Yes. I have had–

Rachel: Your brother is over on that side of the ear, literally pulling your ear out, like listen this when you talk.

Sarah: Okay, that is what I was feeling and sensing. I was trying to see if you felt that it was my brother too. I feel my brother has been on my left side this whole fucking time, trying to pull my ear apart. And there is this ringing in this left side, and I am like, why? And then, it continues to hurt. And I feel, he is getting pissed at me for not listening or something? About you can be, which is it, fixed or healed? You can be fixed.

Rachel: They use the word, you can be fixed.

Sarah: You can be fixed. In the past, about a year ago, it was my probably darkest moment with my anxiety. And feeling, I am going to have this anxiety for the rest of my fucking life. It is never going to go away, and feeling pretty hopeless about it. And I have had tons of transformation of my anxiety that I have experienced and struggled with. To the point now, where it is much, much, much better. But I think there is still probably something in my consciousness that saying, it is never going to go away. You are always going to have this. It is always going to be there. And I think, of all the things that are physical symptoms in my body, that is the one that I think I have had the most challenge overcoming.

Rachel: I want you to understand that this not your own voice telling you that. That is something else. And that is something that you do not want to be associated with. That is a whole separate entity, other than yourself. That is not your voice, that is something else. Do not listen to that voice, because that is not you. The tricky part of the spiritual stuff is, a lot of the times you will have these darker beings come in. And sometimes that manifests as anxiety, depression, and all those kind of disorders. And they will tell you… Let us say, I am scared about finding a job or something along the lines of that. They will come in and stick to me like glue and say, you know what Rachel, you will never find a job. You are not qualified enough. No one will ever hire you. You are a fucking weird piece of human nature. Look at what you are doing right now. You are never like… That is all them. That is not me.

Sarah: Not me. Yes. It is not–

Rachel: Anytime you hear that say, that is not me. That is totally not you as a person. You are not saying that to you. That is not even an ego voice. That is 10 times in ego voice, and that is not you. And when you can go in and say, that is not me, guess what? They lose their power. They lose spirit, they are gone.

Sarah: Yes, that is powerful. I feel they are leaving actually.

Rachel: They are actually moving out. Because I feel that, and it is really cool.

Sarah: It just got stuck in my throat for a second, but it was coming up my throat, and then leaving, and just starting to go.

Rachel: Yes, because she was really sick. Do you feel like you can believe a lot better. And it literally just melted off of you and came off. It was a really cool experience to witness. The other part is when I do stuff like that, but there is sometimes I can really feel what that person is experiencing. I am like this is weird. Am I happy about something? I was like, Oh man, that is not me. Okay. That is Sarah. I was like, whew it was not me.

Sarah: I have had that experience with clients too, where you are, you feel the shift that they are going through. I think it is really interesting too. I am still feeling the left ear, it was probably saying, keep listening. Not just like, listen, keep listening.

Rachel: Do not just say you will do it. But actually go through and think about it.

Sarah: And, do it. So, the left side I also found is receiving. So I feel that is also the ear. So, for whatever reason, it was not the right ear. But I feel it was the left ear, because that is where you receive energy, versus give energy.

Rachel: The right ear is also future. So, this is going to happen in the future, tends to listen to this to help your future self. Listen.

Sarah: I love that.

Rachel: Like advice rather than letting go, which would be more of the right side, like with the right ear. So if he is, Hey, let this idea go. Then it probably would have been over here. If let us say you needed to forgive a friend or something. That is more on that side.

Sarah: Would have been the right ear.

Rachel: Yes. But it is like, listen to this lady help you for future advice stuff.

Sarah: Yes. So I believe in the possibility that anxiety will no longer be part of my life. It will not exist in my future.

Rachel: Guess what? When you have that belief, that what I have, cannot be fixed. They already won. Whether you want to call that a they, or an entity, or what else? Do you really want to say that you won? Yes, I have the belief I can get better. This really sucks. Now I am just depressed all the time, and I just have to deal with this. And this is horrible. Why would you want to accept that? Hell, that sucks. I would not want to do that. I came to the point in my healing journey where I was, I do not know how to get rid of this. I do not even think it is possible to get rid of it, but I do not want it. So let us just figure out how to do it. I did not have an answer. But as long as you are open to receiving the answer, you are on your journey. You are on your way. If you just know that someone out there can help you, even help you. Let us just even play it on the caution point, if someone can help you and not even get rid of hurt, or cannot even fix it or something like that. That is a hell of a lot better than the place you are in now.

Sarah: Yes. I like seeing it as something separate than myself too. But also I have power to say, go fuck off, go away. I am not listening to you anymore. Rachel, thank you so much. This has been obviously transformational for me in my own personal healing. But I hoped it also brings light to a different way to address the roots of illness, especially chronic illness, for all the listeners. And it is just so powerful to understand some of the emotional aspects of this. Not that lab tests are not important, but not just, what is on a lab test. There is just so much more that, in my experience, it is well, I have done that. And I take liver support every single day, but I still was holding anger in my liver. So there is just so much more going on actually. So, thank you, thank you, thank you for your time. I appreciate it so, so much. Is there anything that you want to leave the listeners with? And how can we find you? How can everyone find you?

Rachel: Just a good following closing, with what I just stated. If you have just the belief system of I know someone can help me, or at least get me to feel better. That is the first step you have got to do. If you want to stay stuck in the point of, this is what it is. It is not going to change. Just even make the conscious decision on what you want to believe with that. As far as working with me as a personal client, you can go to my website, which is www.myrae.com and click on the personal clients tab. And then, you have the option to sit and do something like what I have done with Sarah today. Where we sit and talk on the phone and literally work it out. Or you can just do a form where you say, you know what, I have had liver issues can you just help me pinpoint what voice systems are stuck in there, and how I can look at them differently? So some people really respond well to just doing the form, and some people really just want to talk it through, just like what we did here today. It all depends on the person, and what they need to for their healing.

Sarah: Beautiful, yes. Highly encourage everyone listening to give it a try. I can now say that it is transformational and I am sure a full hour session with you, which is really able to dissect so much of the limiting beliefs that are stuck in our energy. So thank you again for your time, I appreciate you so much.

Rachel: You are welcome.

Sarah: Holy moly, when we were done recording this episode, my brother came through even stronger. And I was able to connect with him so intensely. And it was intensely powerful that is taking me a week, to really integrate this information, and come back to the editing process. So, if you want to connect with Rachel, just click the links in the show notes. And thank you for taking the time to listen to this episode. If you loved this episode, I would so appreciate your support. Please head over to iTunes and leave a review, so that even more individuals can start to heal on a soul level. Thank you again, and I will see you next time.

 

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